Carmen Imes and Dru Johnson discuss what the imago Dei (image of God) is and is not. Speaking especially from the text of Genesis, some important insights are made. This is an excellent primer to Carmen’s upcoming release,  Being God’s Image: Why Creation Still Matters. The podcast also sheds light on implications of Artificial intelligence and ChatGPT.

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Carmen Imes (PhD in Biblical Theology, Wheaton College) is Associate Professor of Old Testament at Biola University. She was previously Associate Professor of Old Testament at Prairie College in Alberta, Canada. Her dissertation is published under the title Bearing YHWH’s Name at Sinai: A Re-Examination of the Name Command of the Decalogue. She has also released the results of her research in a book for laypeople entitled Bearing God’s Name: Why Sinai Still Matters. Carmen is an active member of the Evangelical Theological Society, the Institute for Biblical Research, the Society of Biblical Literature, and the Canadian Society of Biblical Studies.

She and her husband, Danny, have served overseas as missionaries with SIM. They have three children. Although she enjoys hanging out with other Bible geeks at conferences, her passion is to help the Bible come alive for laypeople. Carmen keeps a blog called Chastened Institutions and releases weekly Torah Tuesday videos on her YouTube channel.

Dru Johnson is Founder and Director of the Center for Hebraic Thought

Dru teaches Biblical literature, theology, and biblical interpretation at The King’s College. He is an editor for the Routledge Interdisciplinary Perspectives on Biblical Criticism series; an associate director for the Jewish Philosophical Theology Project at The Herzl Institute in Israel; and a co-host for the OnScript Podcast. His recent books include Biblical Philosophy: An Hebraic Approach to the Old and New Testaments (Cambridge University Press); Human Rites: The Power of Rituals, Habits, and Sacraments (Eerdmans); and Epistemology and Biblical Theology (Routledge). 

Before that, he was a high-school dropout, skinhead, punk rock drummer, combat veteran, IT supervisor, and pastor—all things that he hopes none of his children ever become.

He and his wife have four children. Interviews, articles, and excerpts of books can found at

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